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Thanks everyone
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Yes indeed James....
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David -- is your PSTN number ending 0101 good to call you?
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Ah - that would be the session at VON where I was sat behind you abusing iPhones?
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You still won't work through an HTTP proxy like Skype does, though.
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thx
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URL, James?
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OK - David - would you like to comment about the potentail of commercial P2P applications, in particular the impressive Adobe Flash based Pacifica? (Henry Sinnreich's team)
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Thanks for being here, BIll. I was just about to ask your question....
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off the phone
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:-)
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Imagine what I have in the trunk of my car DaN.....
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Or just use a Jazinga device?
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Why not just embed Asterisk or FreeSWITCH into a handset?
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Aha - so the key to this is to have a number of 'uber-phones' capable of P2P SIP?
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Where/how is registration info implemented?
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Outbound calls to PSTN I can see as being really straightforwad - but what about inbound calls?
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I once saw a P2P video streaming solution. Was looking into this in 2000.
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Or even P2P Skype!
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Bearing in mind the most difficult part of the equation for an ITSP is the 'bit on the end' - i.e. the bit that it is difficult to have total control over
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I would support P2P at the front end - but with our clever stuff at the backend
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wait, I am being shortsighted. Or just being cynical about the carriers ability to deploy this technology effectively.
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Skype is a composite architecture - P2P at the user end but with centralized control of the security/gateway stuff - a good model
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excellent call. must run.
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p2p sip is not really a carrier solution anyway, is it?
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The Skype P2P model is really quite interesting - intercept is carried out at the PSTN gateway
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I consider the lack of ability to do intercept as a feature
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Do you attempt to deal with the different encryption laws worldwide with this effort?
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James, Bill - great questions... will queue them
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Ah - you found the source of the noise!
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Jim - I had to mute you because of background noise. Feel free to raise your hand and I'll unmute.
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What about configuration and management of gateways - e.g. to PSTN?
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what about the propagation of latencies?
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Got him
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David Bryan, co-chair of the IETF's P2PSIP Working Group and also CEO of SIPpeerior Technologies.
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James - David Bryan, our guest.
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Good question, Dameon... I'll add that in.
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Who is talking?
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So is this technology going to actually do anything about the NAT traversal problems that plague SIP today?
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Adobe Pacifica?
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Sorry I'm late - missed the front end....
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Scrolling in chat seems to be hosed from Firefox on a PC
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Wow, Julien fixed the timestamps on the chat!
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Please feel free to raise your hand if you want to be unmuted.
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Cacelotto - I had to mute you because of background noise.
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No problem. Good luck with the movers!
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Actually, I'm waiting for moversz to ring the door. Sorry for the disrupt.
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Or I can mute you.
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Come on back in... you can mute yourself
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i don' want to disturb. just wanted to look in. Thought I was muted
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Cool
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Dan: I'm here. I'll jump on the bridge in just a moment. And hello to everyone else in the chat...
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United States:<br/>+1 218 936
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6581
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United States:<br/>+1 218 936
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Text is displayed as
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The Iotum folks said they were going to work on it first thing today.
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Bill - thanks for the confirmation.
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12" Powerbook
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Working in Safari for me
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(Our guest is the lead author of the document.)
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Confirmed that the Calliflower.com page seems perfectly fine in Firefox. Seems to be only a problem in Safari.<br/><br/>Jeanette, what browser are you using?
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I'll email the Iotum team.
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Bizarre. I just tried shortening the title of the call, but the Calliflower.com site still makes it squished.
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Hmmm... the problem seems to be if I go in through the Calliflower.com interface. If I go in through Facebook it is fine.
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Jeanette - yes, I'm having the same problem in Safari on my Mac. The number is:<br/><br/>+1 218 936 6581<br/>
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Hi- The phone number is all squished together and unreadable. Please post the number here so I can call in. Thank you!
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