Carl - David (rise of the stupid network) Isenberg would be a great addition.

wonder how they will deal with the Google/Android phone which doesn't even force app-signing?

That's true Bill

the t-mobile stuff was about voip on wifi

yep, on-aircraft wifi blocking voip

good question Bill - anarchy in the view of establishment

but HTTP Port-80 stuff gets thru

is that documented somewhere

T-Mobile blocking VOIP on the iPhone in Germany

we should probably wrap this, it's been nearly an hour.

http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2008/09/16/t-mobile-rains-on-iphone-voip-apps-parade-in-germany

It all comes down to what best serves the common/greater good. Do we continue to subsidize old infrastructure or do we as we did with the Internet, provide incentives to move to new infrastructure.

(at least that's the latest scuffle in this area)

In the T-Mobile case, I think they made a big stink over the "advertising" that essentially got people to violate their contract with T-Mobile in order to get the VoIP application.

would love the link

thank you

It would be easy to argue that everything we do on the Internet is communication in some form or another - whether it's voice, video or even a movie. The question becomes do we continue to, as Jim pointed out, try to keep filling the same boxes.

http://www.savetheinternet.com/ <br/>Broadband Coalition

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I mean shortfall

Looking at the taxes on my PSTN line versus the taxes on my cable Internet line, I see huge differences. Couldn't they more than make up their windfall by equalizing the taxes paid on both?

Mark, can you type in Jim's last name?

Having been where the folks at Lehman are, losing a very high paying job with an industry going away for a while (in my case the dot com crash), there are things one must do to avoid real problems.

Ha! Good for her. In my personal life I haven't carried a balance on a card for 15 years. Seems the best way to go but not all have been able to do that

Most people won't.

Making me happy my wife is so conservative financially :)

I guess people need to start taking responsibility for their financial situation

he he I wasn't looking at the screen, reading stuff about the economic panic in USA Today

thanks...I thought I was invisible for a minute ;o)\

Dameon how was sushi?

Miyake was pretty good

Mark: Jim@baylor.com?

@Mark Hewitt Do you think maybe it's because the population base is hard to warrant being spread so far and wide?

thank you alec for stepping in

did you get my tweet, Alec? ;)

i am sure its because i did not set up this call originally

ok

yeah he does now Alec

"Canada is woefully positioned for future Internet usage<br/>and the quality of current broadband networks is barely<br/>enough to cope with current traffic because of a lack<br/>of investment by providers, according to a new study<br/>....[B]roadband networks in countries such as Latvia,<br/>Romania and Bulgaria scored better than Canada"<br/> <br/>http://tinyurl.com/6kas2f<br/> <br/>46% of U.S. users have DSL, 39% cable modem, 12% fixed wireless<br/> <br/>http://tinyurl.com/5qy6ud

nvmd

came in from skype

its a feature

you got the recording working?

and gave the pin

as in record?

so i cants

Tell me when you want the recording to start and I will

I'd love to have a link to that stat

right

uh oh

I can record via skype

the system is not recognizign me as the admin

anyone got the abillity to do this

good point Dameon

Time to call Alec :)

skype

and i did not come in from

not on via skype

its not letting me record

locally

he may be recording locallyu

you are right

I don't think it's recording!

good morning

Not showing as recording

funny

Chris has rescheduled to October 2nd so its going to be me