Later everyone!

was that ken calling BS on us agaoin?

pretty much all over the map

I;ve got 24 web based games in G1 and iPhone portals

;) Hi Ken.

The convergence we are talkling about (netbook/PC and phone) is not relevant. It's as big a deal as my washing machine convergence with the microwave.

Sorry about that Alex, I'm testing with Tringme but I'm not sure if it is my headset or Tringme that is the problem ... note that I am hearing everything perfectly fine.

FYI Dell has Inspiron Mini 9 on sale today - $199

Safari 4 runs HTML 5 and CSS 3 which is the same as the Pre ... have not seen a real emulator yet. Not sure the SDK is really public

is there ANY emulator for the Palm Browser

Tim - that sounds good ... We have a cable connection which is 30MB / 5 ... runs about $50/mo

OS X is modern but not new. What the future OS looks like is yet to be seen. I think RIM and Microsoft will have to upgrade to stay current

we have been offered a 'shared' 3g router that reflects out to wifi. 10Gb/Mth by vodafone

so, absolutely agree w/Alec

looks to me that carriers are positioning themselves to replace pc oems as a channel for pc software

me too

I got confused and closed it ;)

I have no idea Todd but now we have abunch of geeks flailing around on a whiteboard

who started the doc sharing?

Which voip choice? Sitofono or Tringme?

to me - all the client devices are just that, clients. The question is what is the universal client software. I kinda doubt it it the browser running on the device

Jim, you are right - 3's handsets use GSM to bridge to skype. Their netbooks +dongle though actively support skype over 3g data.

but that's me

oops we are way off target. the very idea of a convereged single deivce to end this war is an anathema to us as people. It is so very 1984ish. Are we rethinking Henry Ford's Model T in any color you like as long as it's black? I think it's a specious idea that the two can, will or should converge.

just try the regular mic instead ...

NP Misha -- I will clean it up in edit.

sorry guys/gals - i usually dont use a headset, relying on my laptop mike and speakers. Had to borrow a headset from one of my guys

I still disagree that there is not one solution. Don't care what market you're in. There is not ONE solution for every person.

I think we

He's overdriving his microphone.

Everytime Misha talks I get notification from Skype that 'High Sound is Coming from the speakers LOL

assuming a compliant browser

can't get more portable than the web!

this really demonstrates the importance of having a communications device that actually is clearly understood. (Yes, i know about my problem but I'm working on a solution this week)

will do

Alec you should talk about the presentation layer view

thanks Carl.

have to run, but will look at this later

will android make it to the MID/ netbook?

3 uses the voice channel for Skype; it's not a VoIP client on the device.

what is the voice capability?

My perception is that the majority of netbooks in europe are shipping with 3G from mobile operators on a monthly data plan.

the old PDA's were capable...it really is about getting all of what people need into a form factor that works for a 'phone' user

Carl - you're banging on the table I think...

I'm not sure I even agree there is a battle or will be. There are min-skirmishes ahead in ecosystem areas. I don't see any reason for or driver for a battle. I think the battle is nothing but spin.

Computes is a big word. We already have phones that you can use docs on. Excel, Word, etc.

great - will unmute you shortly.

i'm off the speaker, on the headset now

Ken here. I think the conversation drifted away from my thought and I didn't want to brek the flow with what I had to say

i agree ;)

k - I'm going to put Carl up next

we need to buy jim a better access point

I was in the queu for Ken. He's sitting with me

Sheryl - are you jumping out of the queue because your points hve been made?

not you -- Carl, but thanks for letting me know.

should have been called jacob's ladder cellphone

partner

i am on skype it might be me

http://www.wired.com/gadgets/wireless/magazine/17-03/mf_netbooks?currentPage=3

hey doug good to see you

thanks for the memory todd

that VP showed us

dont forget nokias bracelet

any one at VONx last spring and saw Intel's Anand present the Atom chip and then showed of his prototype "Majic"

hey everyone - looking forward to today's discussion

you did not send it to me yet

http://voiceontheweb.biz/2009/02/how-one-social-media-enthusiast-is-boldly-advising-his-followers/

I'm on the call but AFK . we're on two computers

Cannot hear you, Ken

nVidia might be over its head in battling Intel http://gigaom.com/2009/02/18/intelnvidia-catfight-is-about-more-than-ip/ x86 IP is still key uless they want to go ARM

Texas Instruments has the Chops for Video and has decided to exit the Baseband and go for the core processor with OMAP: http://gigaom.com/2009/02/16/texas-instruments-to-offer-a-champion-chipset-for-mobile/ and http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/022209dnbustievolves.2859b67.html

Part of what will drive some of the form factor is the processor war going on.

Nokia considers entering the laptop indusrty - http://apps.calliflower.com/conf/show/46436

http://www.wired.com/gadgets/wireless/magazine/17-03/mf_netbooks?currentPage=1

http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=214502179