Squawk Box Sept 3 - Developing and updating applications

Wed, Sep 03, at 11:00 AM
(GMT -04:00), US - Eastern
Duration:	30 minutes

Join us with guests Kerry Ritz and Martin Rosinski of Palringo, James Body of Truphone, and Irv Shapiro of IfByPhone as we discuss the in's and out's of building iPhone Applications.

18 participants called in to this call

M Alec Saunders	Dan York	James Body	martin	Adam Somer
Nick Desbarats	Mark Petrovic	Arshad Merali	Mike Pruyn	Mark Hewitt
Irv Shapiro	William Volk	Jeanette Joy Fisher	Craik Pyke	Jim Courtney
Dan Rockwell	Greg McQuay	Amy Hesser

James Body said:

Sep 03, 12:03 PM (GMT -04:00)

www.truphone.com/moo - if you need it

Mike Pruyn said:

Sep 03, 12:02 PM (GMT -04:00)

Thank you, Alec et al. A very interesting call.<br/>

Dan York said:

Sep 03, 12:02 PM (GMT -04:00)

No, we don't! :-)

Dan York said:

Sep 03, 12:02 PM (GMT -04:00)

Is James going to lapse into the cow song? :-) (Quite the enthusiasm there, James.)

Dan Rockwell said:

Sep 03, 11:55 AM (GMT -04:00)

good answer, thanks :P

Dan Rockwell said:

Sep 03, 11:53 AM (GMT -04:00)

lol black magic heh

Alec Saunders said:

Sep 03, 11:53 AM (GMT -04:00)

Craik - I'll get to you next.

Dan Rockwell said:

Sep 03, 11:52 AM (GMT -04:00)

Yeah apples pov not so much the consumer/fan

Dan Rockwell said:

Sep 03, 11:52 AM (GMT -04:00)

Yeah more of a review process

Dan York said:

Sep 03, 11:51 AM (GMT -04:00)

Third SkypeOut disconnect today... don't think I'll be calling in via Skype tomorrow.

Dan Rockwell said:

Sep 03, 11:49 AM (GMT -04:00)

It seems like the first platform that really compliments your user experience and or take it to a new level

Alec Saunders said:

Sep 03, 11:47 AM (GMT -04:00)

As soon as he mutes again.

Alec Saunders said:

Sep 03, 11:47 AM (GMT -04:00)

it's Bill.

Mike Pruyn said:

Sep 03, 11:47 AM (GMT -04:00)

There seems to be some crosstalk of small children on the bridge?

Dan Rockwell said:

Sep 03, 11:47 AM (GMT -04:00)

I was curious how the reviewer process works? Can you explain more about these folks who review your app concept, and basically have a say on its eventual success or not?

Dan Rockwell said:

Sep 03, 11:46 AM (GMT -04:00)

thx

Dan Rockwell said:

Sep 03, 11:43 AM (GMT -04:00)

has anyone run into restrictions in app develop that have come up from apple after you've made the app, following their initial guidelines? like any surprises like oh you cant make that either scenarios?

Alec Saunders said:

Sep 03, 11:42 AM (GMT -04:00)

no official video support from Apple.

Dan Rockwell said:

Sep 03, 11:42 AM (GMT -04:00)

any reason why QIK hasnt come to the app store yet?

William Volk said:

Sep 03, 11:41 AM (GMT -04:00)

very few 3G phones are

Alec Saunders said:

Sep 03, 11:41 AM (GMT -04:00)

I believe it's small now, Nick. It was very large in the 1.1 timeframe.

Nick Desbarats said:

Sep 03, 11:41 AM (GMT -04:00)

does anyone know what % of iphones are jailbroken?

Dan York said:

Sep 03, 11:39 AM (GMT -04:00)

Yea! (for IfByPhone being a Mac-centric place)

Dan York said:

Sep 03, 11:37 AM (GMT -04:00)

yep

Alec Saunders said:

Sep 03, 11:35 AM (GMT -04:00)

must have flaky gateways today

Dan York said:

Sep 03, 11:33 AM (GMT -04:00)

Second SkypeOut disconnect of this call. :-(

William Volk said:

Sep 03, 11:33 AM (GMT -04:00)

there is a link here

William Volk said:

Sep 03, 11:33 AM (GMT -04:00)

it's on the catalog page for the app

William Volk said:

Sep 03, 11:32 AM (GMT -04:00)

Nokia 6600 can't run signed J2ME apps. Known bug.

Alec Saunders said:

Sep 03, 11:31 AM (GMT -04:00)

that's right!

William Volk said:

Sep 03, 11:31 AM (GMT -04:00)

Apple does have a support link on the iTunes catalog for apps

William Volk said:

Sep 03, 11:30 AM (GMT -04:00)

I have to deal with that, you need to have the fans reply ... not you

William Volk said:

Sep 03, 11:29 AM (GMT -04:00)

Port 80 HTTP is allowed in unsigned J2ME apps

Nick Desbarats said:

Sep 03, 11:29 AM (GMT -04:00)

LOL

William Volk said:

Sep 03, 11:29 AM (GMT -04:00)

Developers! Developers! Developers! Developers!

William Volk said:

Sep 03, 11:28 AM (GMT -04:00)

In fact I'd say that a small publisher pretty much CAN'T get a Brew app published to Verizon handsets

William Volk said:

Sep 03, 11:28 AM (GMT -04:00)

tens of thousands of dollars for a BREW app

William Volk said:

Sep 03, 11:27 AM (GMT -04:00)

Or Verizon

Nick Desbarats said:

Sep 03, 11:27 AM (GMT -04:00)

from the user perspective, you're right, it works. i'm looking at it from a developer perspective, wondering whether to go native or web.

William Volk said:

Sep 03, 11:26 AM (GMT -04:00)

seems to be working, creme floats to the top

Nick Desbarats said:

Sep 03, 11:24 AM (GMT -04:00)

good point, but discovery is going to be a lot harder when there are 10,000+ applications...

William Volk said:

Sep 03, 11:23 AM (GMT -04:00)

but how do people find it?

William Volk said:

Sep 03, 11:23 AM (GMT -04:00)

what's funny is that MEEBO.COM is the best IM for the iPhone and it's a web app

William Volk said:

Sep 03, 11:23 AM (GMT -04:00)

The issue is discovery

Alec Saunders said:

Sep 03, 11:21 AM (GMT -04:00)

absolutely. It's already happening in my case.

Nick Desbarats said:

Sep 03, 11:20 AM (GMT -04:00)

hmmm. i wonder if people will get sick of having too many apps on their phone, similar to the way people are wary of installing apps on their PC (preferring to use web apps instead).

Alec Saunders said:

Sep 03, 11:20 AM (GMT -04:00)

yeah - the business of web apps is declining, but I wonder about the use of the wrapped web browser is all.

William Volk said:

Sep 03, 11:20 AM (GMT -04:00)

yes, native apps can launch the web app, and that makes sense for commerce, help etc.

William Volk said:

Sep 03, 11:19 AM (GMT -04:00)

Apple has a directory of web apps, it's still there ... but not being featured

William Volk said:

Sep 03, 11:19 AM (GMT -04:00)

Most of our web traffic came from the Apple iPhone portal, which is now buried on their website

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Dan Rockwell	Dan York	Deb Jones	Greg McQuay	Ian F. Hood	Irv Shapiro
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