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need to get Michael on the call more often
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thank you all. that was a blast.
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Agreed - he certainly stirred things up
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T-Mobile has the chutpza to charge me MORE for WiFi on my T-Mobile/Starbucks account when I was in the UK. That was maddening
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agreed James
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Market forces will always favor the better connected services
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I think that any attempt to legislate a mandatory interconnection policy for VoIP would be very bad for the industry
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we DO Bill ;)
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the notion of calling a number is perhaps outdated... the need to connect to point a bridge to your account is important. Skype is VoIP and yet I cannot point Phweet to Skype without buying Skype In and double paying or I use SkypeOut to dial-in and it goes via the PSTN
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very interesting session. bye all
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Good conversation - interesting stuff. Thanks Alec.
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A good session - sorry I was late
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Bye Alec Thx for the interesting call
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Bye Pat
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You have WiFi roaming that works in CANADA? I'm IMPRESSED!
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THAT is amazing
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Or T-Mobile and iPhone WiFi VOIP in Germany
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Sounds like T-Mobile & Truphone!
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alec I'll be interested in your summary
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carriers have blocked http urls for apps they didnt approved
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why can't my mobile operator provide me with a SIP account. Why can't skype give me a SIP account? So I can point to it?
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Andy: you implied that one of the reasons for the Robertson "letter" (the big new thing that is making him tense) is mobile convergence. Comment?
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and CLOSED networks kills MMS
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nice comment Jonathan!
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No-one talks over Pat and lives to talk about it
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Closed networks can be a sign of an immature market. In the early days of SMS in the UK you could only SMS people on your own network. About as much use as a chocolate teapot.
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Let James tak
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MMS is dead on the vine because it took too long for carrier interoperability
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Shall I put my hand down - it aches and I think I have forgotten what I was going to say!
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you will get a chance to talk
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james... bill.... I see you guys!
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or less?
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what FIVE percent?
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what's the % of Skype users who have Skype-In?
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Precisely. Ask Robertson if GIZMO is willing to pay for peering with Skype.
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based on that
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then the % of SkypeIn users has to be 2% or less
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approximately 10% of Skype's registered users are paying something
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I had to deal with the IM BS in 2003. It was incredibly stupid.
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Jim is right. the argument for open wireless networks is not hypocritical
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Skype is a 'parallel universe' telephone network
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Peering on Skype: Having an API to know the 'presence' of a Skype user and having the abilty to call them AND having the ability to HAVE a presence on Skype and accept a call.
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That's what Michael is arguing for.
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IM, presence and voice?
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Can someone define what we mean when we say 'peering with Skype'
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who's on the noisy mobile?
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All the others combined are still a fraction of the size of Skype. the only big market that Skype does not serve is mobile, and Skype has implied recently that that is about to be overcome.
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So we know that Skype CAN do at least a certain amount of peering, but why should they?
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BRAVO!
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hi there James!
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