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Squawk Box Sept 19 - weekly wrap! Conference call organized by Alec Saunders
Agenda
It's Friday and we'll be wrapping up some of the stories of the week. A few of the things I want to discuss this morning are:

Skype's Jonathan Christensen's assertion that VoIP is dead; Michael Robertson's letter to Skype haranguing them over their definition of Open; the carrier panel at Om Malik's Mobilize and what they had to say about the data business; Google Android phones are due out on October 17th with t-mobile; the iPhone app-store acceptance process; Blackberry storm coming to Verizon; and more.

It's been a busy week
See all
need to get Michael on the call more often
thank you all. that was a blast.
James Body said:
Agreed - he certainly stirred things up
William Volk said:
T-Mobile has the chutpza to charge me MORE for WiFi on my T-Mobile/Starbucks account when I was in the UK. That was maddening
agreed James
James Body said:
Market forces will always favor the better connected services
James Body said:
I think that any attempt to legislate a mandatory interconnection policy for VoIP would be very bad for the industry
we DO Bill ;)
the notion of calling a number is perhaps outdated... the need to connect to point a bridge to your account is important. Skype is VoIP and yet I cannot point Phweet to Skype without buying Skype In and double paying or I use SkypeOut to dial-in and it goes via the PSTN
Sergio Meinardi said:
very interesting session. bye all
Good conversation - interesting stuff. Thanks Alec.
James Body said:
A good session - sorry I was late
Bye Alec Thx for the interesting call
James Body said:
Bye Pat
William Volk said:
You have WiFi roaming that works in CANADA? I'm IMPRESSED!
William Volk said:
THAT is amazing
William Volk said:
Or T-Mobile and iPhone WiFi VOIP in Germany
Sounds like T-Mobile & Truphone!
alec I'll be interested in your summary
William Volk said:
carriers have blocked http urls for apps they didnt approved
why can't my mobile operator provide me with a SIP account. Why can't skype give me a SIP account? So I can point to it?
Andy: you implied that one of the reasons for the Robertson "letter" (the big new thing that is making him tense) is mobile convergence. Comment?
William Volk said:
and CLOSED networks kills MMS
nice comment Jonathan!
James Body said:
No-one talks over Pat and lives to talk about it
Closed networks can be a sign of an immature market. In the early days of SMS in the UK you could only SMS people on your own network. About as much use as a chocolate teapot.
William Volk said:
Let James tak
William Volk said:
MMS is dead on the vine because it took too long for carrier interoperability
James Body said:
Shall I put my hand down - it aches and I think I have forgotten what I was going to say!
you will get a chance to talk
james... bill.... I see you guys!
William Volk said:
or less?
William Volk said:
what FIVE percent?
William Volk said:
what's the % of Skype users who have Skype-In?
Precisely. Ask Robertson if GIZMO is willing to pay for peering with Skype.
William Volk said:
based on that
William Volk said:
then the % of SkypeIn users has to be 2% or less
approximately 10% of Skype's registered users are paying something
William Volk said:
I had to deal with the IM BS in 2003. It was incredibly stupid.
Jim is right. the argument for open wireless networks is not hypocritical
William Volk said:
Skype is a 'parallel universe' telephone network
William Volk said:
Peering on Skype: Having an API to know the 'presence' of a Skype user and having the abilty to call them AND having the ability to HAVE a presence on Skype and accept a call.
That's what Michael is arguing for.
James Body said:
IM, presence and voice?
James Body said:
Can someone define what we mean when we say 'peering with Skype'
who's on the noisy mobile?
All the others combined are still a fraction of the size of Skype. the only big market that Skype does not serve is mobile, and Skype has implied recently that that is about to be overcome.
So we know that Skype CAN do at least a certain amount of peering, but why should they?
William Volk said:
BRAVO!
hi there James!
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