and Rod Ullens too

i will have you, john todd and shockey in that discussion

we should have that debate

For a number of reasons

On balance I think that we like ITU telephone numbers best

jkohlen@gmail.com

I think that or view is that an end point for services is the same, irrespective of whether it is identified by an ITU assigned number or an IETF URI or even a propritary 'Buddyname'

The problem is that we are setting ourselves up as an INTERNATIONAL operator so we cannot escape from the devilish detail

about wireless settlements with in the EU member states

that is why Viviane Reading is advocating so hard

yes but you aren't so lucky when dealing with intercountry

It is clear from the European viewpoint that the current N American system is overly complex and is based upon legacy procedures

Is the 'tax' somewhat less for a nomadic/mobile service?

so as to force reform

What about the state governments who are addicted to their state taxes on telephone fees?

make it the worst model that exists today

that says absent bill and keep

i know there is a poison pill position internal to one of them

sort of

So we have AT&T, Verizon and Qwest *supporting* the bill-and-keep reform... and we have the rurual carriers opposing it?

"Microsoft: U.S. Broadband Policy 'Total<br/>Failure'"<br/><br/> <br/><br/>http://tinyurl.com/53s77j

Did you see that even Microsoft calls the US Broadband act a total failure

but i will ask

i know you living in a rural area would be a significant

Sorry... my connection died... was my question answered around whether there is any value in *individuals* sending in comments?<br/>

Get it dealt with quickly before the administration changes!

Yes - did you see how watered down the Senate version of the Broadband act was: http://broadbandcensus.com/blog/?p=787

Right... Jan 20, 2009 is the end of the Bush administration.

i am sure its the packet sniffer between us

no worries

(Sorry for the poor audio today... having IT issues.)

Can *individuals* submit comments as well?

Is there a deadline for these comments?

"Permanent fees don't belong on the Internet. Geographic fees are hard to do and have no place in the world of IP."

What can companies do?

Sure

yes

Next week?

james will you add your take on Emergency services around the world?

I will; Rick and I have a call at 1:30 today

invite them for next week please Mark

We should talk after the conference

Aha

I have a working JV using there technology for our EOC technology; currently our ECOSoft group is working on a FEMA project

Which?

Yes

Mark - are you connected commercially with Vixxi - or do you use them?

Is the VON Coalition info page the best place to stay up on this? http://www.von.org/info.asp

will do

Carl - we should ask Vixxi to join one of our regulatory sessions

Interesting that Vixxi has now delivered a reverse 911 VoIP based PSAP - an EOC "Emergency Operations Center" can appear directly into any PSAP regardless of the source.

thats the taxes

we do that too

Subsidizing the rural services on a per minute basis appears to be a really bizarre way to support infrastructure. Paying a subsidy to each rural service would appear to be a better model to use

Or is someone blogging about this? (that we could read about)

Is there a URL for this decision being discussed?

what is local service rates in the UK James?

yes

27 cents per minute?

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Hmmm - have not heard about Vixxi - what is that?

Converged VIP/GSM devices that offer nomadic services do present particular challenges - but we believe that although it is not easy, these challenges may be met!

Vixxi has been leading the VoIP and SIP based 911 solution - currently in place in over 30% of the major PSAPS

We had this discussion some time ago with the disclosure of Prior Art from ACT Networks in the early 90's

Sorry to be late on parafe!

hello all