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ReadWriteWeb Live: OpenID Conference call organized by Sean Ammirati
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The OpenID Foundation recently announced the results of an election for new Board Members. (http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/openid_foundation_board_election_results_2008.php) Join some of those Board Members and the authors from ReadWriteWeb as we discuss the future of OpenID and the Open Stack.
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sophware said:
thanks
cubicray said:
I think once the pieces of the open stack start coming together the value will keep growing and OpenID will spread organically and adaptation will come naturally
Barry Bigip said:
thanks again1 very facinating
pfsc said:
great session - thanks very much -- very interesting topic
Sean Ammirati said:
don't know how that happened
Sean Ammirati said:
sorry Brian
bkissel said:
I appear to be muted, can someone turn me on?
Jazzed to see all you folks using Calliflower! Big thank you from us at iotum ;)
Sean Ammirati said:
@Barry, you'll get the last question
cubicray said:
i totally agree and looking at it this way answers a lot of the previous questions in my opinion
sophware said:
@david thanks. your assumptions are probably right, even though you don't know the event. the event is for the general public, held in Providence, RI, publicized mostly by word-of-mouth to friends and family of organizers (newbcamp.com).
nelking said:
This is like credit cards. You have to have merchants that accept the card, before you can conduct a transaction. Alternative payments (mobile and NFC, online) face the same challenge today: user adoption vs. merchant adoption. What comes first?
Sean Ammirati said:
ok, that is fair
chris.messina said:
if FB does the same -- or screws developers, you might see a revolt
chris.messina said:
...and it was, until they neglected their product
Sean Ammirati said:
I think people at MSFT would have said the same thing a few years ago with IE ('it's good to be king')
chris.messina said:
it's good to be king
chris.messina said:
why hasn't the UK adopted the Euro?
chris.messina said:
it's business
chris.messina said:
i wouldn't call it an abuse
chris.messina said:
i think it's too soon to tell
Sean Ammirati said:
you don't think FB connect is an abuse of power?
chris.messina said:
it's only when you abuse your monopoly status that people will go after you
chris.messina said:
but again, for most people, they love google
chris.messina said:
i guess you could make the point about google and search...
chris.messina said:
and when you have a monopoly desktop player, it's more visceral
chris.messina said:
when it's the desktop it's different
Sean Ammirati said:
interesting - think you would have said the same thing about Google a year or two ago
chris.messina said:
firefox was a proxy for anger against MSFT
chris.messina said:
(and you couldn't opt-out)
chris.messina said:
IE was not opt-in
chris.messina said:
people can opt-in to using facebook today
chris.messina said:
people don't really hate Facebook that much.
chris.messina said:
firefox was championed against something else -- something which people hated (namely, IE).
chris.messina said:
not really
Sean Ammirati said:
So are you going to get the community to buy an ad for a 'Spread OpenID' campaign like Firefox?
david said:
@sophware, depending on what they're looking to do I might wait. This notion of using an account you have from one place to sign in to many places on the web can take some time to get used to especially if you're new to the internet. Really hard to judge though without knowing more about the event and people.
sophware said:
I'll be presenting to a group of people new to social media and, in some cases, internet use in general -- should I tell them about OpenId now or tell them to wait?
chris.messina said:
but not need a new password
chris.messina said:
i mean, they could just say "bud@portlandtrailblazers.com" as their openid in 2.1
chris.messina said:
not sure about that
david said:
Even that is too niché and complex. :)
chris.messina said:
so you could tell a player, just type in "portlandtrailblazers.com" as your openid
chris.messina said:
directed identity helps in some ways.
david said:
There is agreement about that it needs to get better, not *how* to make it better.
centernetworks said:
there isn't agreement about that? c'mon!
pfsc said:
how is the foundation attacking the ease of use issue?
Sean Ammirati said:
http://openid.net/2009/01/15/momentum/ -- blog post being referenced
pfsc said:
not working on the phone icon....
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